Posts by Anna Marina

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Unwritten, congregational 'rules'

by Thetruthhurts in

what were some of yours?

the big one in our hall was no frontal hugs!

these were generally thought of as inappropriate, only side hugs should be given between sisters and brothers.

Anna Marina

A recent one - they sussed out that people turn up late for the meetings. Soooo.... they took away the chairs. At one point it was like musical chairs, if you didn't get there early enough, you didn't get a chair.

They kept just enough chairs in the main hall based on regular attendance numbers. You turn up late, you go into the back room and watch it all on telly.

They muffed it as usual, even fewer people came. Imagine it, one vast hall with one tiny row of chairs. Ok I exaggerate but it did backfire.

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How do you feel about the JWS religion after being out more than 10, 20, 30 years ?

by Finkelstein in

myself being a born in and completely out for more than 30 years i see more of the damage of what this religious cult causes people .. part of myself leaving had to do with the psychological harm it was causing people back in the 1970's, one guy my age at the time hung himself out anxiety and depression.. the numerous suicides that have occurred in numbers is shocking to say the least.. then there is the many families breaking up.. marriages breaking apart because one member decides to leave the jws.. the deaths of members or their children from refusing a blood transfusion.. this hit me personally when my mother refused a bt when she was ill in the hospital and died.. over the years and observing all of these things reminds me how glad and fortunate i left when i did but i do find it responsible to others to expose this religious cult to what can happen to people who get involved with it and that's what i've been doing on this forum and elsewhere.

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Anna Marina

I can understand people's feeling of utter betrayal.

I was lied to when I studied - I think they must have spent years trying to put on a good act to continue trying to fool me. While I didn't know much it worked but I'm a helpful soul and got the impression they appreciated my help. So I did all the stand in talks, properly, you know using the scriptures and making the right points. What I didn't realise was, they didn't like this. Not really. But in my helpfulness (doing these talks) I saw through the false teachings. So I blew the whistle. Nice and loud. Again, I thought I was helping them and the false doctrine simply originated with some fuddled headed chap at HQ who'd got his scriptures twiddled.

But no.

So in the end (having given them 14 years) I disfellowshipped the Governing Body because I had evidence they were ignoring my expressions of deep concern and I could see the horrendous damage they were doing on so many levels. All sorts of things that the Bible condemns. Yes, they threw me shortly after, but by then I had already told them they'd been disfellowshipped and done my best to make sure I had informed the congregations far and wide.

Happily this has had a good effect on many locally and encouraged them to leave without causing them the terrible psychological damage that has happened to others.

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JWs closer to Islam than to Christianity.

by Lost in the fog in

ok, so i know that the following article is from a roman catholic church blogger, but i thought that his ratios and comparisons were very well set out, if anyone else is interested.

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https://completechristianity.blog/2020/02/09/on-jehovahs-witnesses/.

Anna Marina

I found that most if not all the WT false doctrines go back to Theo Sufism. The Whirling Dervish are Sufists - they spin and spin till they are so dizzy they feel no pain. How very like WT who get people busier and busier so they no longer think for themselves and are willing to follow instructions coming from GB that do not appear sensible.

Theo Sufism has connections to the Mafia via a man called Mazzini (1800s) who was involved in establishing both Theo Sufism and the Mafia. Mazzini was in with Garibaldi. They were both members of the Carbonari and wanted to unite Italy. I believe the composer Verdi was greatly admired by them. Verdi wrote Nabucco - aka Nebuchadnezzar

Hebrew Slaves Chorus

Guess they wanted to get back to the good old days of the Roman Empire when Italy was all one.

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2/10/20 20 hindsight: the wt fiction fig tree

by waton in

this week's, 2-10- 2020 jesus lesson 103, parables of the fig tree, prematurely spreading leafs, cursed because of raising false expectations.

what a perfectly fitting facsimile for the fruitless fiction that the wt corporation has produced during "christ's presence" .

!8xy, 1914, 1925, 1975, 2000, 2075. by their [prophetic] fruits you will know them, or the figurative fig leafs, not even covering the bare wt facts.

Anna Marina

When I was translating one of my video into Spanish I found out that the Return of Christ in Spanish can be translated as the Lap of Christ. Like he's a runner who completes his lap and returns.

But they've got him running round the track endlessly. In their book he can invisibly return any number of times at any new date they pick.

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2/10/20 20 hindsight: the wt fiction fig tree

by waton in

this week's, 2-10- 2020 jesus lesson 103, parables of the fig tree, prematurely spreading leafs, cursed because of raising false expectations.

what a perfectly fitting facsimile for the fruitless fiction that the wt corporation has produced during "christ's presence" .

!8xy, 1914, 1925, 1975, 2000, 2075. by their [prophetic] fruits you will know them, or the figurative fig leafs, not even covering the bare wt facts.

Anna Marina

Providing 1 year can be 8 years long they got 1914 right. It's just a variation on the theme of a day for a year. In their case 1 year for 8 years. Or thereabouts, roughly, give or take, generally speaking.

No its not scriptural/right. But they don't care about being wrong. What they hate is being contradicted.

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Allowed?

by punkofnice in

a jobo i know has cancer.

her son goes and cleans her house and generally cares for her.

so does another non-jobo relative.. the congregation, interestingly, has shown very little support apart from the odd one rabbiting on about 'bible promises this and that'.. so, the co visited and said, 'but your son is an apostate(tm).

Anna Marina

PunkofNice

Yes - GB want the money and assets left to them in the wills of those they smugly abandon. What's more if they are not dead but have dementia and accidentally hand over £10,000+ more than they intended, this so called charity, doesn't promptly hand the money back.

Regarding robots - I have been told I got them just right in my cartoon.

Wombaticus Orgiaticus - Introducing the Species

If you like part 1, here's part2

Wombaticus Orgiaticus 2 - The Manuals with Special Talk

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Allowed?

by punkofnice in

a jobo i know has cancer.

her son goes and cleans her house and generally cares for her.

so does another non-jobo relative.. the congregation, interestingly, has shown very little support apart from the odd one rabbiting on about 'bible promises this and that'.. so, the co visited and said, 'but your son is an apostate(tm).

Anna Marina

Elder faithful sister I knew became infirm/housebound. The apostates (who were probably not anti-Christian) up the road were keen to help her. I was new at the time, so still naive and couldn't work out why the pioneers would walk past her window without ever coming in.

The publishers learn to act with zero compassion. They are so full of their own sense of righteousness they don't see how heartless they have become.

I was very ill recently with something like flu. I crawled into town where I have been shunned many times to get something for my cough. I think if I had collapsed infront of one of their trollies, they would still have shunned me.

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If you're "anointed" don't seek out other "anointed" so says the Watchtower January 2020

by RolRod in

when i was affiliated with the witnesses, there were barely 6,000 who profess to be of the anointed remnant.

i recently read somewhere that today there are over 20,000 who profess to be anointed.

that figure may be more when you consider those who meet and partake privately for fear of the stigma of claiming to be anointed.

Anna Marina

Oh now I know what the Masonic Set Square is - its the corner they paint themselves into.

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There is a possibility of more people (JWS) dying from suicide than from refusing a blood transfusion !

by Finkelstein in

i just recently heard of another person (jws) taking their life by suicide, a woman in her 30's.. sheesh, reflecting back upon all the other past jws that unfortunately did this, it creates an unnerving acknowledgement, jws are more likely to die from suicide than from refusing a blood transfusion.

i remember going back to the 1970's there were occurrences of people who i knew who were associated with the jws in one way or another committing suicide.. at the time i thought well people will do that just like the rest of the general population, not taking notice about the association with the jws.

but now i do see a connection in knowing of how people are mentally entrapped by this religoius cult in their psychological mind set and sociological behavior.

Anna Marina

Think also - do they die from overwork? I know someone who volunteered for Chelmsford and died of (I think) a heart attack. Am not too sure of the facts as I was getting marked at the time. But sadly he died and now his wife is back working at Chelmsford dealing with her grief. They have used her on a promotional video to encourage sisters to go to Chelmsford cause you might get to drive a digger truck like her.

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The future of the Watchtower Society

by mickygrey in

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friends

i left way back in 2002, seems a long time ago now and i haven't really kept up with any developments since.. i've kept one ear open and noticed recently there is talk of the wt being investigated over the sex abuse cover ups, but over the years this story has come in and out of the news.. what is everybody's predictions as to the future of the borg?

i know what most people want to happen, but realistically, are we just looking at certain elements being hit because of the restructuring they did a few years ago to protect from this very thing?

looking further ahead, you'd like to think that more people would wake up?

Anna Marina

There are never baptized non-jws. Even they, although sometimes treated with contempt and labelled 'bad association', defend the organization to jws who have been booted out.